Episode #66 – ‘Supercharge Your Brain’ with Dr David Jockers

fattofit podcast healthHow can stress have a negative effect on your mental capabilities? What is the link between our brain’s performance and our body’s condition? And how can you improve your all-round wellbeing? That’s the discussion in this week’s podcast, as Dr David Jockers tells us about his new book, ‘Supercharge Your Brain: The Complete Guide to Radically Improve Your Mood, Memory and Mindset’.

Our bodies are controlled by chemicals which were originally intended as part of our survival system. Now, these hormonal changes often come into play because of stress and other factors, and these hormones can create a ‘brain fog’ which clouds our view and leads to physical problems, too. Seize control of your mind and body with a better understanding of the mental processes and the biological reactions that you go through, and learn how to achieve optimal health by learning with your mind and your body over time.

You could soon start to see a change in your fitness levels, your available energy, your mental capabilities and your enthusiasm for life, all starting with small changes to your outlook and your routine.

Dr Jockers has a website which you can visit for advice: www.drjockers.com

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You can find a copy of the free e-book ‘Supercharge Your Immunity’ here, along with helpful information and details of how to request a personal consultation.

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Melissa:  Welcome Dr. Jockers. Thanks so much for taking time to be in the program today.

Dr. Jockers:  Thank you so much, Melissa. It’s really an honor and privilege to share with your audience.

Melissa:  Now, I know, your book is called “Supercharge Your Brain – The Complete Guide to Radically Improve Your Mood, Memory, and Mindset.” That’s a tall order. I haven’t had the chance to read it yet, so I’m going to grill you on what’s there.

I’m super interested in this because I’m going through a lead detoxification right at the moment. I’m a few months in. I’m very interested on effects that it may or may not have on my brain or has had and what’s happened. I know that since I’ve radically improved my health over the last 18 months, my brain fog in my own personal case has lifted considerably. I’d like to know how did you get interested in this and what made you focus in it so much?

Dr. Jokers: You know, for myself, Melissa, I struggled with, which is really memory, with attention deficit, with issues like that growing up. You know, I remember at a point in my life just as a teenager feeling like I would always be tired. Right? I was constantly tired. I was always tired. I was falling asleep in classes, having trouble remembering things. You know, I was an athlete at that time, so I was always interested in performance and how I can improve my performance. As I got into college and started moving along, I started picking up books on speed reading, on really just on memory, and natural health, and different things like that. It just became a hobby. It just became something that I really just developed an obsession with.

I really went from a struggling student to the top of my class. I did that during my undergrad and then I was at the top of the class in my graduate school program as well. You know I would tell you my graduate school experience I worked, I believe or not, I worked two jobs. I went to school full-time, beyond full time. I went to seminars all the time. And I was probably the least stressed of all of my classmates. My classmates thought that I was a genius or that I just picked up information faster than them, but that’s not really the case.

I definitely am not a genius. I think I just hacked into my own biology and really found advance strategies that improved my memory, my ability to retain information, and my ability to perform at a higher level. And most of the students there were given things that rationally really destructive. In fact, students particularly during exam time really do things that are just outrageous that actually destroy their brain function and actually limit their capability to perform well.

Melissa:  I think I’ve been there.

Dr. Jokers:  Yes, exactly. I just was using strategies that I had learned from other people and it worked. So when I put this book together, it was really just a copulation of things I’ve learned over the last 12 years. Just thousands of hours of hacking my own biology, researching, working with patients to help improve performance. You know that’s really where the book came out. It’s just all my top strategies. In fact, actually I shouldn’t really say it’s all my top strategies.

I really wanted to put together a book that anybody at any stage, I mean whether you have one hundred dollars in your bank account or a hundred thousand dollars in your bank account, you could pick that book up and immediately start following the principles, not feel overwhelmed. You could read the information, digest it, and immediately start applying the principles and have success.

Melissa:  Well, it’s on its way to me now.

Dr. Jockers:  Great!

Melissa:  I definitely want to use it. I think it’s really important to have, just as you said, to have a book like that. That’s not overwhelming. That’s almost like a handbook that people could use to go through step by step and start implementing some things. Because as I say, I noticed when I changed what I was eating like I said about a year and a half ago, a lot of things improved. You know, not being able to concentrate, just sort of being all over the map, and finding it very difficult to work on documents and things like that, writing stuff, and a lot of those things disappeared rather quickly and then improved along the way when I’ve done other things.

But I know there’s a lot more to be dealt into and like I said if you do have other issues, you may have some toxic issues, you want to monitor how well, in fact now I’m monitoring my improvement on some of those areas to see how well things, you know, like retention and short term memory improve or don’t improve over time. Hopefully, it’s going the right way. But there seems to be, I know you treat people as well, there seems to be to me a whole group of people or a large segment of the population that has brain fog and that is also somewhat mindless. It’s in these continual loops of, you know, go to work, go home, you know do your commute, sit in front of the TV, and there’s never much real thinking.

I can’t really describe it. It’s kind of almost like zombie land. I talk to a lot of people all the time and they ask me “How did you change your health and how did you do these things?” And I start to tell them that I see the glaze come over their eyes. But something that piques their interest is how did you get rid of this in quotes brain fog or how did you improve your work? What’s the actual definition of brain fog? Do we know what causes it? Is it all food related, health related in that way?

Dr. Jockers:  You know, that’s just a great comment that you made there Melissa. Most people are just walking around settling for mediocrity in their life. They created a new normal. The normal is this level of mediocrity where they’re just getting thru their day. Kind of the issue with brain fog is that it’s not considered a critical health problem and so because it’s not considered a critical health problem, medical system really has no answers at all for it.

They just really just help people well, you know, try to sleep better. Sometimes there are secret advice there, but it’s just something that people think they have to live with for the rest of their lives. I knew I was there. So really to breakdown brain fog, it’s kind of this cloudiness. Most people describe it as a cloudiness that they’re going around with on a regular basis. It’s the inability to put words together succinctly oftentimes.

Melissa:  That’s it. Yes, that’s it.

Dr. Jockers:So speech can be stuttered and slow. On the inability to link complex thoughts together, so anything that’s kind of mentally challenging can be overwhelming for some that’s dealing with brain fog. A tiredness where the individual just really is unable to get their mind to work at a higher level and so it’s basically just wants to be in a vegetative state. When I think about just watching TV, it’s just kind of this vegetative state of passive entertainment rather than actually working and linking complex thoughts You know it’s one of those things where they, in Stanford this is years ago, they dissected Einstein’s brain. You’ve heard about this.

Melissa:  Yes.

Dr. Jockers:  Yes, they went to see if there was more neurons, if Einstein contained more neurons. That if he was this genetic freak where his brain contained more neural cells, therefore if it did, it would be capable of handling more load, more of an information load. What they found out was that he had the same amount of neurons as any typical male that was his age, his size. What they found though was that he had twice as many gaps called synapses between the neurons and those gaps allowed him to really be able to link complex thoughts and have more flexibility, plasticity with his brain meaning that his brain was able to link complex thoughts and change and reshape itself at a greater level than the average individual.

The scientist also talked about was that we all have that capability.  All of our brains are able to that. In fact, all of our brains are doing that as part of survival and part of living life because our brain is changing and adapting depending on what we’re dealing with on a regular basis. Unfortunately, most people just don’t know how to hack into that in their own brain and what kind of strategies will enhance their ability to create these synapses, these gaps. It’s a strategy called synaptogenesis where we’re creating new synapses to enhance our overall performance.

Melissa:  Do you think, and this is just my theory, do you think in a way that technology, and I love technology. I’m a junior bio hacker and it’s helped me enormously to restore my health, but do you think in some ways technology is helping people remain in a foggy state because again it’s repetitive behavior that in many cases doesn’t require complex thought?

Dr. Jockers:  Yes, absolutely. You know technology is phenomenal and I don’t think anyone of us would ever want to go back to a way of life without technology. We have so many great conveniences with it; however, I really believe that, as a society, we’re at a technological adolescence. Meaning that we’ve got this incredible technology, we’re just immature on how we use it and so TV, movie theaters, video games can all be incredible tools to help us perform and live life at a higher level, but when we abuse it, we use it incorrectly, it can actually de-evolve us meaning that like as a species we’re actually reverting back.

We’re actually not getting stronger; we’re getting weaker. You know, that’s the problem. It comes down to community education. Books like, you know, the book I wrote. You know, health leaders like you, me and others getting out and educating people and showing them how to use technology to their advantage.

Melissa:  Right. I think, like I’ve talked about several times on this show is you know without the technological blood panel work from Wellness FX and so forth, I still would have been really stuck.

That’s what’s pushed me over the top to keep going actually be able to see, you know, where my problems were and then address them and then get help and put together my team to help me. But, like I said I think a lot of people as you described before that are in the brain fog area use the technology like another version of TV to you know just distract them and keep them from complex thoughts. However, as you say, we want to have that to help us, but we also want to keep in mind that, you know, use it properly is a good focus.

Now, one thing that’s come up a lot particularly for me given my situation, but for people too, that are over 40 or maybe even more than 50 is is poor memory just a part of aging? Or is that a myth?

Dr. Jockers:  Yes, we heard that all the time and actually it is a myth. There is many cultures, for example, there is a book called, what was that, “The Blue Zones” where the author…

Melissa:  Blue Zones?

Dr. Jockers:  Yes, Blue Zones where the author actually went out and he studied different cultures. There’s another one really good one called “Healthy at 100” by John Robbins where he studied the Hunzans, the Vilcabambans in Equador, the Abkhasians in Russia, the Okinawans in Japan, and these cultures, the people had very sharp memories. Right? Their memory is extremely sharp. I mean, even my wife’s grandfather, he’s 83 and he’s got a very sharp memory. Like extremely sharp. He remembers all kinds of stuff and so it’s really not a normal part of aging.

We should actually have extremely sharp memories as we age. I mean, think about like you know biblical days, it’s like Moses got his life calling when he was 80 years old. We have people like Joshua and Caleb fighting wars in their 80s and 90s. It’s like over time we’ve kind of developed this idea that degenerative disease is a normal part of aging and it’s not.

This other cultures are demonstrating to us that’s not actually the case. And so it’s really just a, you know, I always say “We’re all going to age,” the question is “Are you going to age successfully or unsuccessfully.”  And if we are losing our memory, we’re having problems with that, it’s a sign that we’re aging unsuccessfully.

Melissa:  Yes and I think too, and you know the research and have seen patients and so forth about this, but one of the things that came up to me was learning something that’s mind-body if you’re older and one of the things, what I was asking you know what the effects of the lead on me might have been or could have been and one of things that came up was “Did you take up any new, you know, endeavor in the last few years or the last 10 years or whatever?” And I was like “Yes, I took up sailing.” And I was an adult so I wasn’t a kid. I was obviously terrified in this little boat and then I went into racing with it and then went up to cruising bigger boats and all of the stuff so it was quite challenging and physically.

It required me to think and also move my arms and legs and duck the sails and all these stuff. And the opinion kind of was that probably helped you a lot to preserve brain function and not get it destroyed because it constantly pushed you to think about “What do I do now?” “What train go which way?” I have a little bit of dyslexia also so left, right with the tiller is a challenge. You have to think twice, the other left as we say. So I was very fascinated and I thought back about other things that I’ve done and so I want to get your opinion on it. Do you think continually learning things with your mind-body over time help you in memory?

Dr. Jockers:  Absolutely and that was huge because we talked about this concept, this synaptogenesis and it’s really the same thing Einstein did. Einstein, he actually experimented with many different parts of physics and science and spirituality. He didn’t isolate himself to one section of physics, so weren’t “that’s all he was studying.” He was a man who constantly was kind of challenging his ability to think deeper and in a sense he would marinade on ideas and that created that synaptogenesis.

The fact that you picked up on sailing and you were challenging your body because you know kinetic intelligence, just moving our body, is a huge way of growing new neural cells, of regenerating neural tissue, and creating new synapses. It’s a huge aspect of it. In fact, in my book, I talked a lot about brain-base movement and how to move our body to enhance brain function. So you know you were doing exactly that like for example my wife loves to dance. Like she loves dancing and so when we were dating, she always wanted to dance. And I can’t dance. I have no rhythm but what I’m good at is learning, right? So that’s what I’m good at and so “My gosh, I have no rhythm but I can learn,” so I signed us up for dance classes. She was all excited and obviously that was huge for me. Anyways, we started dancing and I’m actually, when it comes to like knowing the dance like we’re going to do the Cha Cha, I’m like significantly better than she is. It’s because I just said “You know what? I’m going to learn this.” I used those strategies and she’s more of a free spirit so she doesn’t really learn the same way and so in a sense, I was a class ahead of her when it comes to dancing which I have no rhythm and she’s a musician just because of this ability that developed just new synapses. So constantly challenging ourselves to learn new skills, in fact, there’s a great book entitled “Think Like Leonardo DA Vinci.” I don’t know if you’ve heard of that one.

Melissa: Yes.

Dr. Jockers:  One of the concepts that he talked about was really focusing on each individual sense, right. Like taking time to think about like “What do I smell right now?” and kind of like describing it in your mind what do you smell. What do I taste? The book talks about as you’re eating really focusing on each individual taste.

Melissa:  That’s a good one.

Dr. Jockers:  That’s profound.

Melissa:  That’s one of the biggest things, I think not to get off our brain subject here too much, but the food and relationship with food and social and getting back to actually tasting, once you’re eating good food that is, processed food taste like cardboard but that is a big thing. And I noticed once I you know started to change what I was eating and the way I was preparing and doing meals and stuff, just a shift happened. A shift happened. I was so much more, you know, concentrated on the taste of the food and I would say “Oh, that needs a little pepper here, a little salt, there.” It became really enhanced for me whereas before it was just all the same.

Dr. Jockers:  Absolutely.

Melissa: It was just all cardboard. So I think there’s a, well you know, but there’s definitely a connection there between the senses and the brain enhancing the brain function.

Dr. Jockers:  Absolutely. And you think about it, to enhance your senses you don’t have to have a bachelor’s degree. You don’t have to have money in the bank. It’s like it’s just really comes down to awareness. You’re really being aware of each individual sense. What are you hearing right now? And trying to really make that larger and larger in your life. How are you breathing right now at the moment? Present moment awareness, present moment consciousness will enhance your brain function, slow down the aging process, and improve your ability to perform at a high level.

Melissa: Yes, I think that’s great. That’s great advice. Now, here is a big question. I know you’ve got the answer for this one. What is the worst brain destroying poison in your view?

Dr. Jockers:  You know it’s hard to say because I think it’s slightly unique for each individual one, but we can name a lot of them. I’ll just talk about blood sugar imbalances. I can talk about gluten. I can talk about fluoride. I can talk about Trans fats. There’s so many things I could talk about – sedentary lifestyles extremely destructive. But you know if there’s one place to start it’s balance your blood sugar. Meaning that when your blood sugar is out of whack, it opens up your blood brain barrier. For example, let’s say you were to go like I did. Here’s how I grew up. My mom, she would never, she was into health. She’s actually a naturopath, believe it or not. But in the early 90s her idea of a healthy breakfast was like Cheerios with soy milk with non-fat soy milk or skim milk or something like that, berries on top, and orange juice. I’d have all of that and of course my blood sugar will go through the roof because everything in there, it really breaks down into glucose, breaks down into sugar and fructose. So obviously it caused major issues.

So blood sugar goes way up, now insulin comes out. So my hormones that comes out to help take the blood sugar out of the blood stream and put it into the cells. And so high blood sugar we know is neurotoxic. People with uncontrollable blood sugar, for example, diabetics, it characteristically damages their optic nerve. They develop vision problems, optic neuritis. It can develop peripheral neuropathy, different issues like that so we know it’s neuro toxic.

The body is trying to save our life. It lowers our blood sugar. For somebody like myself, I have a hypoglycemic tendency which many individuals do, particularly ectomorphs or individuals with narrow shoulders, are leaner. We have a tendency to overproduce insulin, which will then cause our blood sugar to go too low. Now my blood sugar is low and my stress hormone pops out. So now I’m getting more adrenal stress and my blood brain barrier, meaning the protective layer around my brain that protects it from like, let’s say fluoride, from aluminum, and lead, and different things like that, heavy metals, pesticides from getting into the brain and affecting neurology.

Now that becomes permeable, meaning that the brain is starving for fuel because the blood sugar is now low because I overproduced this insulin so now the brain opens up this barrier to allow as much nutrients as possible to get it. Unfortunately, when it opens that barrier now it is susceptible to heavy metals. It’s susceptible to different carcinogens, chemicals, environmental chemicals that are really in all of our systems and so that all gets into the brain and causes more problems. Plus, it also elevates inflammatory cytokines meaning that kind of the immune response that’s inflammatory.

Our body associates blood sugar imbalances with stress and the possibility of infection and so it elevates stress in our body and increases a part of our immune system that prevents us from infection but also causes a lot of collateral damage to the different tissues in our brain particularly of course when we’re talking about our brain into our neural tissue, our brain tissue. So, so huge to balance our blood sugar and how do you do that? You stay off of the high carb foods.

I recommend a diet that’s grain free ideally, so staying off of grains and of course that would eliminate gluten as well, which is another major problem, but staying off of grains, staying away from a lot of fruit at once like orange juice for example, staying off of that really focusing on good fats. Grass fed butter, coconut oil, avocadoes, olives, extra virgin olive oil.

I always talk about that should be the foundation of our diet, lots of non-starchy vegetables, low glycemic fruit like berries, lemons, limes, Granny Smith apples maybe, maybe grapefruit but in small quantities. So fruits and lots of herbs, turmeric, basil, thyme, ginger, so these really potent anti-inflammatory herbs. You want to use a lot of those herbal teas, dried herbs, fresh herbs. You want to use a lot of that. Clean protein. So getting a moderate amount, not excessive, not high amounts of protein, but moderate amount of grass fed beef, organic, free range chicken, ideally pasteurized eggs, wild caught fish, different things like that. And then also adding in some fermented foods such as kimchi or sour krout which have a profound effect on our second brain, which is our gut and really enhancing what we call our microbiome or the microbes that makeup our body and particularly our gut membrane and help produce key neurochemicals, key chemicals that influence our brain neurology and our ability to produce synapses and new neurons.

So we want fermented foods, we also want fibers so good fiber sources. I like chia seed, flax seed, pumpkin seeds, different things like that, hem seeds can be a really good fiber source. They also have good essential fats and some anti-oxidants in them.

Then last but not the least, low glycemic sweeteners so things like stevia which I find is the best sweetener particularly for my body. If you are not able to tolerate stevia well, which a small group of our population doesn’t do well with stevia, some of them do a little bit better with sugar alcohols like xylitol. Some people, particular people with digestive issues like irritable bowel really struggle with sugar alcohol but some individuals do okay with that.

Maybe a little bit of like raw local honey, gravy maple syrup, but it’s small part of these. And using blood sugar stabilizing strategies like having a little bit of apple cider vinegar in water before you consume something that is sweeter. Or having perhaps a multivitamin with extra chromium and vanadium before you would have something that’s more of a sweet so maybe like a gluten-free cake or something like that, if you were going to have that at a party consume a multivitamin with a lot of chromium in it beforehand and that could really help. Or drink a little bit of apple cider vinegar in water, put some cinnamon on it. Using these kinds of strategies to help keep blood sugar very, very stable is so critical for healthy brain function.

Melissa:  Yes, I have to agree 1,000% because once I got my blood sugar under control of course inflammation dropped like 1,000% from like over the top down to, I think I’m almost at zero now I’m thinking I’m just a hair at one for my inflammation level. I didn’t realize any of these until I looked at my Wellness FX blood panels and then I was horrified by all the red that was popping out.

Dr. Jockers:  Absolutely.

Melissa:  But that’s a good little primer there and we’ll put a transcript also of this podcast in the show notes for people if they want to go back and look through everything you’ve talked about there because you gave quite a good list of that people could use just as a starting point for where they are.

Dr. Jockers:  Yes.

Melissa:   But I recommend and I have many times before for them to go get some blood work done so they can actually see where the problems are and how to attack them with their doctor or whoever they choose to work with maybe through someone they find through Wellness FX or yourself. We’ll get to that in a little bit. Also, I want to talk about how stress affects the brain. You know, we all stressed in our day to day lives and we deal with it differently.

Most good portion of the population uses what they think are de-stressing things such as alcohol and things like that to de-stress themselves which can actually backfire on you down the road. How do you think or know, in people that you see, that stress damages the brain and how can we negate that?

Dr. Jockers:  Well, chronically elevated stress, particularly I think we’re talking here about mental, emotional stress, it just creates massive free-radical damage. So we elevate stress hormones like cortisol, like adrenal and most people consider adrenalin, norepinephrine, epinephrine, and what happens there is we secrete those and that’s key for short-term survival like that gives us the survival advantage; however when it is chronically elevated it actually destroys our brain tissue.

If you think about it, somebody who’s in a survival mode is using all their energy reserves. All the energy reserves are going into surviving the moment. So higher level brain function, spiritual growth, high performance activity is not a priority when you’re just trying to survive your daily life. And so we know that destructive thinking particularly causes major stress response in the body. What are some toxic emotions? It’s going to be things like fear, anger, bitterness, unforgiveness, depression, low self-worth. These things hardwire the brain.

They literally create pathways in the brain, meaning it’s kind of like if you’re going to go out and go for a hike on a mountain and you went into a certain area and you saw that the grass had been pushed down because there had been so many people walking through that area, that’s what we do when we constantly are thinking these types of toxic thoughts. We actually hardwire the brain and create a pathway that’s easy for our brain to go to. So if we struggle with insecurity, for example, because perhaps we had a bad relationship with our father and then if you’re a woman for example, that went into relationships with men later on in life and now you don’t want to but every time you’re around the man who gets close to you in your life, you’re thinking “Am I going to be abandoned here? Am I going to be mistreated here?”

And that’s just triggers that pathway and creates low energy, it’s literally sacks our energy, creates massive inflammatory damage in our neurological system. We know that the average person has 30,000 thoughts in a single day. Research shows that destructive thoughts trigger more than fourteen hundred million physical and chemical responses and they activate more than 30 different hormones. With all of those responses, it creates an incredible amount of toxic waste. That’s one of the big problems with elevated stress hormone is that when we have elevated stress hormone, it leaves a lot of debris behind. It leaves a lot of pollution in our body behind and that causes brain degeneration.  A very very key thing we’ve got to address.

Melissa:  One more thing that is hard for people to grasp, but I know you can illuminate on this eloquent way more than I could, and that is the brain-gut connection as you talked about before, our second brain.

Dr. Jockers:  Yes, so huge. Basically, there are several connections between our brain and our gut. One of them is that we have a nerve called the Vagus nerve. Vagus is Latin for wanderer and the Vagus nerve starts in our brain stem and it travels down. It innervates many different areas including the heart as well call like brake on the heart, part of our parasympathetic nervous system meaning it helps reduce stress and helps promote relaxation and digestion. Obviously with the heart, when we’re under stress we need our heart really to beat faster, to pump more blood.

The vagus is stimulated when we’re in a more relaxed state. It slows down the heart rate, slows down the heart’s stress capacity I guess you could say. With the digestive system, it activates it. It helps with gastric motility, helps with peristalsis, moving food through the bowels. So vagus nerve activity is so critical because we’ve got to be eliminating food through in our body in a regular basis. One of the key things I ask my clients when I’m working with them on my initial consult is I tell them “Do you feel like in a 24 hour time period, you’ve eliminated everything that you’ve consumed?” For example, if I ate a meal at 1 o’clock today, it should be out of my body, the waste from it should be out of my body by 1 o’clock tomorrow at the latest. So we should have this 24 hours at most. Ideally less, twelve to eighteen hours is really optimal and ideal. It should be out of our body within a 24 hour period. If that’s not happening, it’s poor gastric motility, poor gut motility. That could actually be caused by lower brain function or vice-versa. The gut, not moving well, can cause more issues with the brain because now as the waste material in the gut is sitting there and stagnating, it’s creating a breeding ground for microbes particularly microbes that we don’t want.

In fact, this is a big issue, is that of course we do want a lot of good, healthy microbes in our gut but we don’t want too many.  That’s what’s happening with a lot of people when they have poor gut motility is that it just creates a breeding ground so we get overproduction of good and bad microbes. That overproduction causes more stress and irritation in the gut lining.

The more microbes that we have in our gut, the more immune activity we’re going to have in the gut. The more immune activity, the more inflammation, the more stress that we’re going to have in the gut lining. That’s going to create an environment that’s conducive for the development of leaky gut, where the gut membrane wears down and now the junctions are looser and that there are larger gaps and therefore food particles can seep through the intestinal lining into the bloodstream. That just creates a whole lot of problems because when you have large food particles in your bloodstream, the immune system is going to see that as a toxic invader.

Our immune system, its primary job in our body, many jobs it has but the primary job is to make sure we don’t die of a systemic infection.  Systemic infections have killed more people than anything else in the history of mankind. It is hardwire to do whatever it can to protect against systemic infection. When we have a large food particle that’s not fully digested or waste material that is now in our bloodstream, the immune system thinks that’s a toxic invader. It doesn’t recognize it as normal food particle. It’s going to create a response, an inflammatory response. For some individuals based on their genetic makeup, how their immune system has developed, they’re going to really attack the brain tissue. That can cause major, major problems.

A lot of research coming out about how Parkinson’s disease starts with issues with the gut, leaky gut and dysbiosis, bad microbial balance. Research coming out with Alzheimer’s disease with that.  So very well take care of our gut and key part of that is good gut motility. You’re better we take care of the brains. It’s a huge aspect.

Melissa:  That would be to address some of those issues would be the use of probiotics and things like that?

Dr. Jockers:  Yes, probiotics can be extremely helpful for that, getting the right type of probiotics. For some individuals that alone can solve a lot of their issues along with obviously nutrition changes.  For many individuals, they’re going to need a lot more help than that especially if they’ve been constipated for a long time or if you’ve developed things like celiac disease or Crohn’s disease or something like that, you will need a lot more help. For the average individual out there, you know, follow your nutritionist’s advice like I’ve talked about drink a lot of clean, well-filtered water. Water that’s filtered so the chlorine, the fluoride, the heavy metals, things like that that are in typical tap water out of there. Along with adding in a probiotic, absolutely can be huge for those individuals.

Melissa:  For people that have just still more difficult problems, they need to see someone like you to develop some kind of protocol for them to follow to get things cleaned up and so forth?

Dr. Jockers:  Absolutely.

Melissa:   Great! We’re almost out of time, so I want to make sure people know where to find you online because you also do long distance consults, I believe.

Dr. Jockers:   Yes.

Melissa:   And have a number of issues you can work with people on so just talk about that for a few minutes.

Dr. Jockers:  Yes. You can find me on my website doctorjockers.com. If you go there, I’ve got a free ebook called “Supercharge Your Immunity.” It’s all about the best strategies for never getting sick again. Outside of just brain functions, another goal of mine is to never get sick. No colds, no flus, no fevers, nothing like that. That ebook I put together goes through all the strategies. I talk about what I personally do, what I recommend when people are feeling a little immune susceptible, and so you get all the strategies there. It’s free along with a recipe ebook.

That will get you set up on my newsletter where you really get cutting edge information. I do long distance consults. I work with selective groups of people so typically I have an application process with that but best way to do that is just get set up on my newsletter, see if my philosophy if it jives with you, if it’s something you know I always tell people “You want a health leader that inspires you. You want somebody that can captivate you, inspires you, entertains you, you would feel like is listening to you, and loves you.”

That’s what you want. Don’t settle for whoever is on your insurance plan or whoever’s convenient. You want to find the right person. If you feel like my style works with you, just go ahead and you can send an email. You can get my email through my website and send us an email and we’ll do an interview process to see if it’s going to work out and we’ll go from there.

Melissa:  Yes and I’ve got to highly recommend this process because I do that myself and I’ve worked with several long distance docs in the last year and half or so and it’s been great because one, I do go and see if it’s not that far from me, but it’s been night and day between working on a plan and coming up with things that work and being able to just quickly go through blood panels and stuff and understand everything much better. As you talked about them, your mental attitude if you’re going to make changes and recover your health is really important and for somebody that’s only going to spend ten minutes with you and write a prescription and it’s not really the answer.

Dr. Jockers:  Exactly.

Melissa:   You want somebody who’s going to be happy that you have made improvements and that can also, you know, I think one of the key things that someone like you can do to help people so much is once you know their history and so forth and where they’re at and look at their blood work and so forth, you can go further with tests and tell them exactly which one’s they’re going to need to help them get further down the road. Whereas other people just trying to do things on your own, you’ll flounder around forever and you wouldn’t know well should I do this test or should I do that test or maybe this is wrong or maybe that’s wrong but the knowledge and the experience you bring to it will eliminate all that. You will be on a very focused pathway. You will be getting results much faster that way. Like I said, I got my team together. I highly recommend. I highly recommend the team. We will put also link of your ebook right on the show so people can click on that and get to it. So thanks so much for coming on today and I hope we’ll get you back on down the road a bit and talk about a few other grand issues and health issues.

Dr. Jockers:  That’s sounds great, Melissa. It’s really been an honor and privilege to share with your group here, your tribe and obviously I love to be on the future. I just really want to let you know you’re doing a great job. You’re really getting information out to the masses and that’s a huge part of us really stopping this cultural trend towards de-evolution like what we’re talking about when people are literally getting sicker and weaker instead enlightening the population so they can take back control of their health and achieve optimal health during their lifetime.

Melissa:  Yes, that’s my mission and I’m doing it a few people at a time. Like I said I think things are very encouraged over the last two years I’ve seen so much change happen and come about through podcast and through getting the word out. I’ve seen so many people that I see every day that I meet at the course of going about my daily life that they’ve taken action on some simple little thing I’ve told them and they’ll come back to me and say “That’s great. That worked. What do I do next? What do I do next?”

It’s really encouraging and it’s encouraging to see that things are starting to change way faster. You know, I go back to the days 15, 20 years ago when you could not find somebody like yourself very easily. It would take a Safari to go across the world to find someone to work with you. The practitioners were few and far between to find and now things are opening up and allowing people to have a chance to reach out and get the help that they need to recover their health.

Dr. Jockers:  Absolutely.

Melissa:   Alright, so we’ll see you coming up down the road in a little bit. Thanks again for being on today.

Dr. Jockers:  Thanks Melissa.

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