Episode #82 – Mira And Jayson Calton: The Micronutrient Miracle

The CaltonsIn today’s episode, we’ve got two great guests to speak to you about their new book. Dr. Jayson Calton and wife Mira Calton are leading nutritionists who have written two bestselling books on lifestyle and food choices. Their third, The Micronutrient Miracle: The 28-Day Plan to Lose Weight, Increase Your Energy, and Reverse Disease, is now available through Amazon, and the couple spoke to us about what micronutrients are – and how they fit in to your quest for good health and weight loss.

Under the guidance of Jayson and through a great deal of research and investigating, Mira was able to overcome her own struggles with osteoporosis and bring herself back to full health. This journey together has led to a partnership which now seeks to help others find their own way back to health.

Micronutrients are those essential substances the body needs to survive, and include vitamins, minerals, fatty acids and amino acids. Macronutrients, on the other hand, include the carbs and fats that we’re often told to avoid. Mira and Jayson advise that finding a balance is essential: much like an orchestra needs the right number of instruments and for all members to be present, the body needs all of the right components and in the correct quantities if it is to do a good job. Having an excess of one nutrient but a lack of another is likely to cause damage, so finding a balance in your diet is vital.

Further reading:

You can find The Micronutrient Miracle on Amazon here

Read about the great work Mira and Jayson Calton are doing here

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FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Melissa: Welcome Mira and Jayson. Thanks so much for being on the program today.

Mira: Thank you so much for having us, Melissa.

Jayson: Thank you.

Melissa: Yes, I’ve been trying to get you guys around for a while because you have such an interesting story. You have a new book that’s coming out called The Micronutrient Miracle. But I think my listeners would really benefit from hearing the story, the personal story of how you got interested in this topic to begin with. And what you did about some of the health information you received about yourself.

Mira: Sure! I guess I’ll start back with I was 30 years old. I was living in New York City and I was a publicist. I wasn’t a nutritionist yet. I was a publicist and I did film premieres and restaurant openings and I thought life was just grand. I got lots of great clothes. I had a lovely social life.

Then I just started feeling sick. Not like a cough or a flu. I just started getting really achy and I started realizing that my lower back started to hurt no matter what I did. At first I would blame it on my shoes being uncomfortable for long hours. You know how we all do that. I was trying to forget that we’re actually feeling pain and you try to look away from what your body is trying to tell you.

So my body was in aches and pains. I got to the point where I literally was not walking to even see my clients anymore. I was lying on my sofa, computer on my chest pretending as if I was just too busy to go to events when in reality my body was just failing me miserably. The pain here on my lower back was just so intense that I finally decided that I had to see go a doctor. I’ve been putting it off and not listening and finally I went to see the physician.

I remember they ran a whole bunch of tests and of course gave me a whole bunch of painkillers. When I got the test back, I was sitting in. They gave me the little paper dress. I was sitting on the examination table He just looked me. He came in and goes, “You have advanced osteoporosis which means that you have the bone density of an 80-year old woman at the age of 30.”

Melissa: Yikes! I’ve heard this diagnosis myself actually.

Mira: Basically you’re not going to get any better. You’re going to have to start taking these prescription medications. If I were you, I’d probably sell your company and have somebody take care of you because you’re going to be bed ridden for the rest of your life.

Melissa: I’m sorry to interrupt this story for just a second here. It’s just so interesting because we started you said you were in Florida. Were you in Florida at that time or did you move to Florida after this?

Mira: No, no, I was in New York City. I was a publicist in New York City and I lived by myself so it’s pretty easy to fake okay. You can just say that you’re too busy to do things and you don’t want to see friends and that sort of thing. I lived by myself so I was really just hiding the fact from myself and everyone else.

Melissa: Got it. I think it’s so interesting because I had a missed diagnosis, lucky for me. So I can’t compare myself to your case at all. But one of the things they told me to do, I was living in the northeast same thing and they said you need to move to Florida, California or somewhere where there’s no snow, where there’s no danger of falling. And exactly what you said that you need to get somebody to take care of you pretty soon because you’re not going to be able to do anything.

Luckily for me, it turned out to be there were two misdiagnoses and luckily my gynecologist actually found out, looked at the numbers and this can’t be right. We retested it a few times and everything was well. But the scare of it for weeks and months was pretty depressing.

Mira: And you know how you feel after. I was going to say you feel horrible. You feel like this is the life that’s been given to me now. I’m not going to be able to have a life. I’m not going to be able to go do these things anymore. My company which was thriving is not going to be able to even exist any longer. You really go through a period of firstly you don’t want to tell anyone because then it’s real, right? You tell people and you got to move. They expect now they’re going to help you. So you don’t do anything for a while and then you get to a point where you know what? I just need help.

So I did. I sold my company. I moved to Florida. I had a lovely sister who I still have a lovely sister but she took me in. She said you can get better in my house and I’ll take care of you. I was very, very lucky to have that as an option. The doctor gave me all these prescriptions for medication and I started. When you’re on your back, there’s a lot of time to do research on the internet.

Melissa: Right. But now again I don’t want to interrupt too much here but did you have a period of just black depression where you just couldn’t do anything. You just were in a down mode of okay this is what it’s going to be and you’re just paralyzed? Did you fall into I’ll just take the medicine and will go ahead.

Mira: I never said I would take the medicine. I never actually got that. I gave a moment to the black depression. I’m still in touch with the boyfriend I had at that time and he’ll tell you. I’ve actually never told this story.

Melissa: But Jayson. Cover your ears, Jayson.

Mira: Jason knows all my… We’re all friends. But he actually said he’s like I just remember it was as if you fell off the face of the planet that day. We broke up. I wasn’t even going to talk to anyone. I wasn’t going to go out and that was just it.

So yes, you go into this bunk and it was until I moved to Florida and I started being with my sister and her dogs and pets are fantastic things. They’re very healing. So I started to live with my sister and I started to look into what these prescriptions I had were for. I started plugging it in and I was like wow! These are not so healthy for me. There are a lot of things that can go wrong if I start taking this.

Suddenly my back didn’t seem horribly a huffle, one being that you couldn’t get pregnant. You can’t take Fosamax and be pregnant. I just kept thinking well I’m only 30. I’m single. I have to take this for the rest of my life and who knows if I’m going to meet a husband. Who knows if he’s going to want children? All these things started going through my head. This is just not a place I’m going to go. I’m not going to go to this corner of what they want me to do.

So I’ve decided to go in the other area and say what else did that doctor tell me. He said you should take some calcium. I said calcium I can look that one up. I realized there was nothing really dangerous about calcium. In fact, I was eating it every day. So I started with that. I said okay what else can I find out about calcium? I said oh you also need magnesium. It just started to pique my interest in that all these things were starting to make sense. These were all things I did to myself though my diet, through my lifestyle that I wasn’t giving myself these specific things that my bones needed to be strong. I was able to start at it and saying, “Oh my god! It’s my fault.” But I didn’t know any better.

So that’s why I work so hard now with Jayson to make sure everybody knows better and that they understand that by adding these things back in your life at the right time, before all this happens or even after it happened. You can reverse these conditions or not get them at all. So two years after we started working together, I quickly realized I did not know enough. So I found Jayson who was a doctor of human nutrition and I went to him. I said, “Can you work with me on this?” We started working together and literally within two years, I’m doing a micronutrient therapy program for myself. We reversed my osteoporosis 100%. I’ve not any sign of it since.

Melissa: That’s super amazing. I hope people take away from this story like I said is the courage. Just this little bit of courage to push them to do something different than the medication route. Because like you said, it’s so serious having shared your situation mistakenly when you start to look into the effects of some of the things that you just talked about. It can be so damaging going forward and can put you in a much worse place than you would be in. The whole potential implications particularly in my case were die or it can happen to you.

So if people can just take a little bit of courage from doing something differently from at least trying to look into alternatives if they are confronted with something like this. Hopefully not but something borderline like this. I think it’s so, so important.

Mira: That’s one of the things that’s so fantastic about the internet these days. Yes, it’s bad information and good information but at least it gives people a little bit of a starting place. At least you can start to look at it and see what’s some of the options might be. Then look for some real specialist who is good in those options that you find and see what makes sense for you, for your lifestyle and for your body.

Melissa: Right, right. Now things are so much easier as you say. But let’s explain what you mean by micronutrients and share the great anthology you used in the book about the orchestra.

Jayson: Yes, that’s oftentimes where people have their first tipoff. They hear us talking and they’re like, “Wow! It sounds amazing!” And they try to look at each other and were like, “What’s a micronutrient?” What are micronutrients? It sounds like a complicated word. It really isn’t.

It’s really just an umbrella term for all those things we already know about and that our doctors and our nutritionists and our health advisors have already been telling us are good for us. So these are our vitamins like vitamin A, D, B, all the vitamins or minerals. Like Mira mentioned the calcium and magnesium and Iron are essential fatty acids. Those are those omega-3 like the fish oil or the hemp seed or flaxseed oil that we hear about. Then there are amino acids. Those are the building blocks of your proteins. Those are what are the micronutrients are.

So food has two basic components. It has the macronutrients – the carbs, fats, and proteins and those are the things that if you read any kind of nutrition or diet book in the last however many years, you’ve heard of those guys, right? Carbs, fats, and proteins and that’s usually where your dieticians and your doctors and nutritionist try to guide you. They’re like I want you to eat a lower carb diet or a lower fat diet or I want you to control calories. That is one side of food and it does have some very powerful potential effects on your health.

But the other side of food, the side of food that we almost never talk about and as we found now and is becoming much more mainstream that it is just an imperative part of this conversation are those micronutrients. When we were able to take Mira and allow her body to absorb the micronutrients that she needed through manipulation of yes part of her diet, part of her lifestyle and then part supplementation, those three steps, her body was then able to just literally absorb all those micronutrients that she needed. Your body knows what to do with them once, innately once you give it to them. But you have to provide them for your body in a way that they can absorb and utilize them. That’s really where supplemental science is changing and evolving today.

Melissa: Yes, that’s great to know that it’s possible to do that and to recover from it.

Jayson: You mentioned the orchestra analogy and this is an analogy that we put into the new book, The Micronutrient Miracle. What we hope is that it’s just easy for people to understand. So you want to think about like an orchestra. If you’re going to have a particular piece of music played, let’s say it takes I don’t know five instruments for that particular piece of music like a clarinet and a flute and a drum and bass and a violin. All those pieces, all those instruments must be present if the music is going to be performed correctly, right.

That just makes sense or your body is the same way for bone building. Let’s say your body needs calcium and magnesium and vitamin K and vitamin D and boron. It needs these specific five micronutrients. All five of those micronutrients must be present in the proper quantities if your body is going to go ahead and be able to carry out that vital function. In this case let’s say bone building.

So like with the orchestra, if we went to the auditorium that night and only the flute and the clarinet showed up and there was no drum and there was no violin and there’s no bass, that music can never be performed. No matter how many of those flutes and clarinets showed up, it doesn’t matter how well they played, how many of them there are. They can never take the place of those other instruments.

It’s the same thing for bone building. You could have calcium and magnesium show up but if D isn’t there and K isn’t there and boron isn’t there, it doesn’t matter how sufficient you are in those other two micronutrients. You will never be able to optimally carry out that vital function. So that’s how micronutrient deficiency works overall. What our goal is to create a sufficiency. The thing of it is that within this small number of essential micronutrients that there are, the vitamins and the minerals, each one of this – the functions that they carry out are very specific to it.

So a clarinet sounds like a clarinet. It will never sound like a trombone. It will never sound like a bass drum. Same thing, calcium has very specific tasks to carry out in your body. It will never be able to take the place of the task for iron. It will never be able to take the place for the task for vitamin C. Those other micronutrients have specific tasks that are unique to them. So the idea now is to create a full orchestra, to create a body or a dietary and lifestyle that will allow you to become sufficient in all of your micronutrients so that all of your body functions can take place properly. That’s really our goal with The Micronutrient Miracle is to help you to achieve that goal in 28 days.

Melissa: Yes, and I think it’s really important what you said here about the orchestra because what a lot of people will go off and do is they’ll try and my doctor warned me about this myself, they’ll try and substitute with a supplement and they’ll just take that one supplement. Like if they’re low in B, they’ll just start supplementing like crazy with vitamin B. It won’t work. No wonder why it’s not working. Why aren’t things changing? Because they haven’t got the whole orchestra aligned and the things aren’t working together. So I think that’s really important that people understand. You need a team effort here of all the micronutrients working together to make it work for you, work for your body.

Mira: Absolutely. We warn people against that also. We see it all the time. There’s always the darling of the day that came out of news report. All of a sudden GNC sells out because somebody mentioned that one vitamin.

Melissa: Exactly.

Mira: It’s like oh they don’t work that way. They have a synergist and they have a competition. They’re very intricate. We don’t want to make it into a biology or chemistry class for anyone. That’s why we just described it as the orchestra and we just talk about how they work together.

Jayson: Yes, you make a great point. If you get your blood work back and you see you’re low in that vitamin B, the vitamin B may be one of those five micronutrients you need to play that song, so to speak or that piece of music. But you may also still be deficient on two others, who even if you become sufficient in that vitamin, as long as you’re missing those other two micronutrients that you need to play that song for that particular ailment or health condition or disease, it doesn’t matter that you became sufficient in that extra one. You still need to be sufficient in all of them.

The music or the bodily function will never fully be perfect or played perfectly until all the micronutrients are sufficient. So you make a really great point. And like Mira said we don’t want to make people confused because it is somewhat complicated.

Mira: It can be confusing.

Jayson: It is. It could be. But the idea is just become sufficient in everything and don’t megadose because taking too much of something like you said could actually cause negative effects on other micronutrients. That’s the science there.

Melissa: Right. Now you say that more than 90% of all Americans are deficient in at least one vitamin or mineral and they don’t even know it. This seems believable to me but I know many people listening, they’re going to say no way.

Mira: Yes, those are entire numbers. Those are USDA reported numbers. No one talks about it. There’s nothing else that is that common in this country. No disease right.

For example BFAD; if you actually combine all the people who have heart disease, who have osteoporosis, who have cancer and who have diabetes, that number combined of those four diseases that we hear about everywhere is life changing, horrible diseases and they are. But those four diseases combined are only half the amount of people that are suffering right now with a deficiency.

Melissa: That is really amazing.

Mira: Isn’t that [15:42 Inaudible] to think about?

Melissa: It’s like mind boggling. 90%, I just want to reiterate that.

Mira: Exactly. A view in a room with 10 people right now, there’s only one person who doesn’t. So chances are it’s you. Stop looking around and say that you’re the healthy one because 9 out of 10 of us are suffering.

Jayson: Yes, we actually say that micronutrient deficiency is the most widespread and dangerous health condition of the 21st century. We started this question journey many years ago when we first started to realize just the power of those micronutrients to heal Mira and to heal thousands and thousands of our clients. But it’s really hitting home even more so today because the reason it’s so dangerous is because almost every single health condition and disease that people are suffering from around the globe have at its root somewhere, a micronutrient deficiency.

So when we don’t take it back to that, sometimes we don’t think about diabetes as having a micronutrient deficiency associated, high cholesterol having a micronutrient deficiency, depression and anxiety having a micronutrient deficiency associated. Once you start to realize that wow! This deficiency really is the root of everything then you start to realize why it just is so dangerous. Becoming aware that you are deficient and which micronutrient you’re deficient in and then eventually learning how to become sufficient really is so powerful.

It really should be where we as health and nutrition experts are guiding people and really start. Instead of putting them on a starvation diet or trying to get them interested in medications or drugs, we really just need to start to teach them about how to eat correctly, how to change their lifestyle habits, and how to supplement smart so that they can become sufficient.

Melissa: Yes, I totally agree which is interesting because you say that the food supply isn’t the only problem for micronutrients and a lot of the Paleo folks focus on that quite a bit and say, “The food supply, the food supply.” So what do you mean by that?

Mira: Well yes, the food supply is worse today than it was 100 years ago. We agree with the Paleo community on that. So we take that and we understand what they’re saying but then that’s not the end of the story. They have to look at what their lifestyle is doing to their micronutrient levels as well.

So for example, a lot of people love to go work out hard. What they don’t realize is when you’re sweating, all of that sweat is coming out of you in liquid form is actually micronutrients. So the harder you work out, the more micronutrients your body is utilizing faster than ever before and the more easily you can become depleted and that open yourself up to illness. We always tell this side. We always tell people especially if they have osteoporosis like me. It’s not about working out harder. It’s about working out smarter.

That’s why in the The Micronutrient Miracle, we have two workout protocols, which are really amazingly quick and simple and you get a better workout in only 20 minutes. You do not have that same micronutrient loss. So that’s one of the things we spend a lot of time this past year focusing on how do we work out without getting that loss? So that’s just one habit.

But stress, stress is another thing that if you just have a lot of stress in your life and unfortunately most of us do in this day and age, that really eats away at your micronutrient levels. Your B vitamins go faster, your vitamin C, your omega-3s.

They’ve done studies which are really fun. They’ve actually taken people, stressed them out to see how quickly they’d react. Then they take the same group of people and they give them vitamin C and omega-3. Then they do the same darn thing and try to get them stressed out again.

What they found is they can’t even feel the stress. So because they’re becoming micronutrient sufficient in their vitamin C and in their omega-3 levels, it makes it so your body can get the same exact thing that once we’re stressed out about it but your body does not react by secreting cortisol and making you have that fight or flight sensation.

Melissa: Wow! She bounced back basically. Your body uses those nutrients to push off the stress.

Mira: Exactly and it’s so cool. The same things that are utilized by feelings of stress, if you just apply and you don’t get the feelings of stress. So it’s really fantastic how micronutrients work in that way.

Melissa: Now here’s something interesting that you guys talk about. I think everybody will love to figure out what this means exactly. But you talk about being in the United States and other places in the world being in the midst of a hunger crisis. Now a lot of people will say how can that be because there are so many people in the western world anyway that are overweight and considered obese.

Jason: Well we are. We are in the middle of a hunger crisis but it’s a different kind of hunger. So there are two types of hunger. There is what we call obvious hunger. This is the hunger that most people think about when they hear the word – I haven’t eating for many hours.

Mira: Grumbling!

Jason: My stomach starts grumbling a bit and I say to you, “Mira, I’m getting really hungry. I want to eat something.” That usually comes from a calorie deficit. There is the other kind of hunger though that’s called hidden hunger. This is a different type of physiological hunger. It’s a type of hunger that’s stimulated from your body not getting enough of those essential micronutrients. Remember we talked about that food has two basic components: calories, – carbs, fats, proteins; and non-caloric micronutrients – the vitamins, mineral, essential fatty acids and amino acids.

So in the past, 100, 1000 years ago when our ancestors would have eaten food, they would have gotten high calorie value and high micronutrient value. What’s happened today with our present food is yes, we still get that high caloric value but those micronutrients have been depleted from our food supplies because it’s not in the soil or because of food processing or because of the fact that we’re shipping our food across the world, so we’re no longer picking it fresh and eating it. All these things deplete the micronutrients.

The reality is today when we eat food, we get the caloric value but we’re not getting those micronutrients. But our bodies are still programmed to make sure that we get enough of these essential micronutrients, hence the name essential micronutrients. If we don’t get those things, our bodies start to suffer. We start to create these health conditions and these diseases. So the effect of that lower micronutrient level is this hidden hunger and it stimulates us to go out and eat and eat and eat.

Many times we’ll interview what we call the super obese individuals – people who weigh 500, 600, 700 pounds. When you sit down with them and you’d talk to them about why is it that you’re eating 2000, 3000, 5000, up to 10,000 calories a day. They’ll tell you, many of them will say, “Listen, I’m an educated person. I understand that if I eat a lot of food I’m going to gain a lot of weight but I cannot control it. It’s literally something inside of me. It’s a craving. It’s a hunger that I can’t control.”

When we start to look at this through modern science, we start to understand. One of our favorite professors, Dr. Bruce N. Ames over at Berkeley College actually talks about why it is that humans are physiologically hard wired for this hunger. It really comes down to getting those micronutrients. So your body is going to tell you to go get more food and more food and more food until that sufficiency level is met. Quite frankly more than likely at the core, at the very root of what’s happening here with this obesity epidemic, so many people are eating more food because they’re trying to become micronutrient sufficient which is a core need for our human body.

Mira: When people are in a third world country and they look very [22:56 Inaudible] and they’re very thin, we say that they are going hungry. That’s a lack of calories with a lack of nutrition.

Melissa: Right, right.

Mira: In our country, we have the opposite. We have the unfed obese which are eating plenty of calories but not getting any nutrients from them. So when the studies are done, both groups have exactly the same amount of micronutrient deficiencies. It’s really amazing. You need to look at them and you wouldn’t know and yet they have the same deficiencies.

It’s the same thing if you’re not the super obese that Jason was talking about, if you literally sometimes hear that ice cream calling to you, I can tell you right now if you become sufficient and this is a promise, this is what happens. If you become micronutrient sufficient as all of our clienteles in the first week, those foods don’t call out to them anymore. That craving monster just is silenced. These sugar cravings come from calcium and magnesium deficiencies. So if you kill the deficiency, you kill the monster.

Melissa: That’s amazing. I’m sure a lot of people are going to be… their ears just went up all the way and their antenna, too. That leads me to some real practical things that you guys talk about. I think everyone would like to know is how did they know or how does a person know sort of rule of thumb if they are micronutrient deficient?

Jayson: Well the basic statistics speak for themselves, don’t they? There’s a good chance that you are and it’s almost 100% chance that you are deficient in at least one micronutrient. People might think well what’s the big deal? What if I am deficient with one micronutrient? Well one micronutrient might have 20 different things that it does in in your body. So remember we said all five pieces have to be there to play that song so even if you’re deficient in one, that could be many different health conditions and maybe even several diseases that could be stimulated just from the deficiency in that one micronutrient. If it’s two, your chances go up exponentially. Three, four five and you start to see the picture.

So in our new book, The Micronutrient Miracle, we put in there what we consider to be just an imperative analysis. It goes through and asks you 50 questions. They’re pretty in-depth questions. You answer them and we’re going to give you a reading as to where you fall on our micronutrient sufficiency-deficiency scale. Again we go over the foods you eat, the lifestyle that you’re living, the different things that you’re doing and your supplementation in this quiz. It will give you a score.

Then we take it a step further. Well there are other quizzes in the book that helped you to define which micronutrients those might be to really pinpoint it. Is it calcium or is it magnesium? Is it iron? Is it B? So we can look at those things. Then we have a great kind of chart that will help you to be able to pinpoint. Say well if I’m deficient or if I’m likely deficient in let’s say nutrient 1, 2, and 3 that may then correlate to some of these different health conditions and diseases that I’ve been suffering from. So it really gives you a clear picture all the way through where you might be in the sufficiency scale, which deficiencies you may be suffering from.

Mira: And how to improve it.

Jayson: Yes, potentially what health conditions those could be causing. Ultimately and the most important thing is how to improve that.

Melissa: So a handbook really to help you go through the different stages.

Mira: Yes, we decided with this one. We want to mention to everybody, everybody could get some benefit out of this. So what we did in this one that’s a little bit different is we have all of our menu plans 28 days, 28 days of recipes and we did it not just for the general health. We did it for eight condition specific protocols.

You have osteoporosis, we’re going to walk you through exactly by hand exactly what we did for my bones. We’re going to tell you how exercise changes. We’re going to tell you what fruits and vegetables and proteins have the micronutrients that have been shown to prevent and treat your condition.

So we have a lot of different conditions. We got fat loss, autoimmune disorders, digestive health, blood sugar regulation. We have cardiovascular health, bone building of course and hormone regulation. On top of that we put in a ketogenic protocol which is getting very popular. It’s a much stricter protocol but it really puts you in a place just for fantastic, miraculous healing.

Melissa: Got it. Now, where can we get the book? And when can we get the book?

Mira: Even cooler than that because we want you all to get the book. I think it’s going to help a lot of people out there. We love this book. More important but on top of that, we wanted to make sure that your change in lifestyle is supported in a way that has never been done before. A lot of people say it’s too expensive to eat this way. A lot of people say I can’t change everything at once. Where do I start?

So we said we’re going to take all these angles. We’re going to just erase that board. You can’t say any of those things because when you buy a copy of this book by August 31st and email us the receipt and you’re going to have a link for all of these, when you do that you’re going to get $200 in gift certificates.

Melissa: Nice!

Mira: Amazing! It’s for things that you already want. It’s wild caught beef and grass fed beef.

Jayson: Grass-fed beef, wild caught fish!

Mira: Wild caught fish grass fed [27:52 Inaudible].

Melissa: Give me that wild-caught beef!

Mira: Well there you go. They’ve been swimming a lot lately.

Jayson: Non-toxic home good items.

Mira: Yes, lots of different items and we’re giving you these gift certificates simply for buying the book and sending us the receipt. It’s super simple to do. We found some really good companies that want to help and they want to make it easier for people. So we’re really excited to be able to share that with people this time around.

Melissa: That’s great because you’ve got the handbook and then you’ve got a starter kit basically is what you’re putting together for people to get them off and running and help them get going on the program.

Mira: Absolutely and we have an inner circle where we’re actually walking people through the thing through the entire first 28 days with them answering questions personally. So that will all be on that link that we’re going to share with you through you of course, Melissa.

Melissa: I’m just going to mention that in the show notes, you’ll find the links and you can click on them and get the book and through what they’ve just talked about here. And also connect up with their community and so forth. I want to be sure to let people know where they can find you guys online and also you have two other books that are already out. So where can people find you both online. Then your two other books also.

Jayson: So anybody can find us at Calton, that’s our last names, C-A-L-T-O-N nutrition.com, so caltonnutrition.com. They can go there. They can find all these great information.

Yes, we do have two other books. Our first book was called Naked Calories and our second book which is kind of our grocery store shopping guide. This is a really imperative guide even along with The Micronutrient Miracle. It’s called Rich Food, Poor Food. We go down every aisle of the grocery store and we really point out to you the foods that have the highest micronutrient value, hence the name Rich Food. So we’re talking about micronutrient rich foods. And how to stir clear of what we call micronutrient poor foods or foods that contain dangerous hormones and pesticides and all that stuff. So both of those are available anywhere books are sold as well.

Melissa: Cool! I think they’re both available on Kindle also?

Mira: Yes, they are. Both of them, yes.

Melissa: Good. So there’s no reason not to get them.

Mira: Exactly. They’re great. Rich Food, Poor Food really is. It was called a GPS. It’s your point and shoot grocery purchasing system. We see people in grocery stores with it all the time. It’s fun to watch people going down the aisles reading and trying to figure out which items they’re supposed to get.

Melissa: Well thanks guys. We’re almost out of time but you’ve really put together a great set of tools here for people to use. As I said, I think it’s very important that they understand what you focused on today which is the orchestra concept of making sure you get these nutrients working together to repair issues you have.

But I think the forthcoming issue of the book with all the goodies you’re offering as well, that’s going to take people I think really down the path to get started. Because instead of just getting the book and then sitting with it not doing anything, you actually have almost an action plan in place for them. To me that’s what’s needed. That’s what’s needed to get people going because again they’re a little bit timid about doing something different. There are so many diet books and things out there. Here you’re just giving them the basic things they need to do to correct some issues and see change and see progress relatively quickly.

Mira: Yes and we’re talking specifically to their condition. What they want to change. One of the thing is we don’t tell you what to eat. We are not a book that says you have the Paleo. You have to be vegan or you have to be low carb or whatever. We actually say you can do this program regardless of your dietary preferences. The one thing we all have to know is that we all have to be nutrient sufficient regardless of our dietary profile. So we give you that freedom as well.

Jayson: Yes and it’s only a 28-day plan and that’s the reason why we made it 28 days. We wanted to make sure that you could look at this. You could understand how if you create a micronutrient sufficient state in your body, the science is there. The research is there. It’s so simple to do something for just 28 days. What we found is that when people get on the plan, they start to create that micronutrient sufficiency. They sleep better at right away. Their cravings go away. Their energy levels increase. Their skin starts to change.

What we ask you to do is just evaluate yourself at the end of those 28 days. If you feel 200 times better than you felt before, after 28 days imagine then what just transferring that into a lifestyle can do for you. You have to make a commitment to that lifestyle. First try it for 28 days. If you don’t notice a difference then listen, go back to what you were doing. But I can guarantee you, you change your lifestyle for just these 28 days and become micronutrient sufficient, you’re going to be literally amazed to how much better you feel.

Melissa: And I think an important point too is that you don’t tell people what to eat or what not to eat. [32:24 Crosstalk].

Mira: Yes and that’s a personal choice. People have to do it for religious reasons or social reasons. There are lots of reasons to eat what you’re eating. That’s your choice and I’m not going to step on your feet over that. But we’re saying is regardless of what fits into your plan, choose the best foods and make those foods count for you.

Jayson: Yes, we go over each and every one. So if you say oh I want to eat a salad for lunch. That’s fine. We show you what ingredients in that salad have the highest micronutrient levels for your specific condition. Like Mira said, we do have for all of the eight condition specific protocols. So yes, it’s totally up to you. That’s really where we’re different.

We actually talked about that in our first two books. It’s called the Nutravore concept. We feel so strongly that becoming micronutrient sufficient is really the foundation of optimal health. As long as you make that your foundation, we let you build your dietary philosophy and take your journey which is an individual journey on your own. That journey will probably change over time and that’s great. But there are so many diets out there that try to say, you should only be plant-based or you should only be animal-based or you need to have a low fat or high fat. We don’t do that. Just plugging in that micronutrient sufficiency makes just such a huge difference. It doesn’t really matter as long as you’re eating high quality food, the kinds of food you’re eating above and beyond that.

Melissa: Well, it’s been great having you guys on and thanks so much for sharing all these information. The Micronutrient Miracle book will be coming out. People, look for the links in the show notes and thank you Mira and Jayson.

Mira: Thanks for having us.

Jayson: Thank you very much.

Melissa: I hope I have you guys on again because I think there’s a lot more to talk about here that people can learn.

Mira: We would love that.

Jayson: Oh yes.

Mira: Of course.

Melissa: All right in a few months down the road. So, thank you guys.

Mira: Thank you so much, Melissa.

 

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