Episode #94 – Lindsey Jean On Tackling ADD, Diet And Medication

Lindsey Jean

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guest Lindsey Jean is with us today to discuss the effects of prescription medication and diet on conditions such as ADD, and how over-medicating can be dangerous to health and cause serious complications. Is our tendency to give out pills to children putting their health at risk, and are there better ways to manage conditions that affect concentration and behavior?

Lindsey tells us about her own experiences as a child with hyperactive tendencies, under-encouraged at school and at home, and written off as ‘hard to handle’ and ‘naughty’. Used to a diet of processed food and take-outs coupled with the sedative medications prescribed by doctors, she eventually found herself with liver failure from the pills and battling excess weight from her diet. Making changes in her lifestyle one step at a time, Lindsey has been able to overcome those hurdles and get herself back to peak health.

We discuss how people can be distracted from their goals and how commitment is the key. Technology can also be greatly beneficial – make sure to read up on the information available and search for answers to your own health queries. Don’t be afraid to challenge your doctor if something isn’t working out for you, and always aim to be the CEO of your own health.

You can find Lindsey Jean online via Instagram:

https://instagram.com/bodyhotty/

If you want to win loads of great prizes, just leave us a review in iTunes! We’ll put your name into the drawing.

FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

MELISSA: Welcome, Lindsey, thanks so much for taking time to be on the show today

LINDSEY: Well, thank you, Melissa. I’m really excited to be here with you.

MELISSA: Yeah, we had or I had a recommendation from a mutual friend that we’ll talk about later who’s become a very close friend of yours now. But he thought you’d be a good person to be on the show mainly because of some struggles you faced in your early life and through your growing up period and then also the way you turned things around and kind of made a success of things in a not-so-great situation. And a lot of people, in my opinion, it’s very hard for them to change the way they look at their health or their situation. They’re very defeatist, I find. And so I think it’s good to hear from somebody who’s actually done the deal, who’s not just talked about it but actually had some tough battles and turned things around. So could you give us an overview of kind of what your life was like when you first started and out, well, yeah, I know, we’re warming up for it. I know, it’s—reading about it is like a whole TV show. So I think people would be interested to hear kind of how you got going.

LINDSEY: Okay, yeah. Absolutely. I’m going to be try and be as laser as possible because it could get really long. I was born to two amazing parents who were really thrilled to have me and very loving, good humans. And it was a little perhaps more challenging than they had expected. I was very excited, very intelligent, very high energy, and my parents literally couldn’t handle it is the term I was told very often in my childhood. They couldn’t handle me. They didn’t know what to do with me, couldn’t I be like everybody else, this child. And they ended up having me start seeing a psychologist at six years old. And the psychologist, the answer to fix me was to put me on heavy, heavy, heavy doses of medication. And I was on pharmaceutical meds, on some level, sedate me my entire childhood. Every few years they change my medication, they up my medication, they had me on multiple medications.

MELISSA: Now was this, let me come in here a second here because I know people today will relate to this, was this kind of like before ADD was so popular or things like that?

LINDSEY: Yeah, totally. Right.

MELISSA: Because I know there was a wave, you can tell us your age if you want to or not, but I know there was a period of time where nothing was ever talked about people having ADHD or any of those type of problems as kid or in school, I should say. And then all of a sudden, a few years back, there was this wave of this is what’s wrong with these kids and this is what we’re prescribing and you were kind of the forerunner of that, I guess.

LINDSEY: I was totally that. I could have been the poster child, the face of ADD. So I am 32 or 33, I don’t actually remember. So this is about 20, 25, 26 years ago and ADD was very new so they had diagnosed me as ADHD and the solution for me, I was a problem, I had a disorder. And the solution was to give me prescription meds and then change them and it was a very interesting journey for me because as a child, I hated it. I hated the side effects. I hated the way it changed my personality. Every time they changed my meds, my friends changed because my personality changed so I felt very isolated. I felt very alone. It was extremely detrimental to my self-worth and my self-esteem because I was told my entire childhood that something was wrong with me. I was bad. I was annoying. I was, you know, and my parents, the two people that were supposed to love me and cherish me and think that I’m wonderful were trying to tone me down because I was too much. So I went through a lot of self-esteem challenges as a child. Now, keep in mind, and this is where I feel like everything happens for a reason and there’s always a lesson in something through this process. My mom doesn’t cook at all, like no cooking, not like barely cooks, like no cooking. So breakfast, lunch, dinner, we were all—we ate out pretty much every meal and it wasn’t restaurants, we were eating at McDonald’s and all fast foods. We’re eating at 7/11’s. If we did eat at home, it was pop tarts, frosted flakes. So I was literally high on sugar and processed foods and then given sedatives. That was my childhood.

MELISSA: Holy mackerel. Now, I know, just to jump in again here, I mean, this literally drives you crazy, doesn’t it? Because the food obviously brings you up to such a point of like energy and franticness and then the medications throw you back down again, so this is like being on a roller coaster every day, right?

LINDSEY: Totally.

MELISSA: Wow.

LINDSEY: And it was a really unique situation also because my dad happens to be a physician assistant. So he’s in the medical industry himself, but he’s in a part of medical industry, he does open heart surgery, where they work hand-in-hand with big pharma, pharmaceutical companies. He makes his money on some level pushing drugs. So it was from my standpoint, it was challenging being a child in that environment when I felt like, “Hey, this doesn’t feel right. This feels bad.” When this happens to my body, it doesn’t feel good and I was a child and I was completely powerless to have any sort of say or change in it. And they’re like, “We’re in the medical industry, we know.” And so it was that struggle that I know other people have dealt with on having somebody with some sort of license or credential trying to trump common sense or what other medical professionals may have of your opinion on.

MELISSA: Yeah, I think, well, it’s a good point that you make there because I face this too and I think what unfortunately after World War II, I mean, science, and I grew up like in the late ‘60s and stuff, and science, you know, because of the moon business and landing on the moon if we ever did or whatever people want to think about that, but the whole science, the onset of science and technology that came out of the space program, things like TV dinners, “Oh, the astronauts eat them. They must be good.” Things like that. And we just—I think there was a whole generation of people that, like myself, and then the previous generation, my parents, were like, “Hmm, this new thing, well, it’s new, it must be great and it’s all based on science so it must be great, it must be fine.” And that’s where packaged foods really started to take off. I mean, they were taken off before them but it became more accepted in my mind looking back. And then because doctors and pharmaceutical companies kept coming up with these miracle and “cures” for things, we s said, “Oh, it’s gotta be okay. It’s science! It’s science!” Literally blinded by science, and then it only comes much later when you sit down and say, “But wait a minute, so if I’m eating this pop tarts equal illness.” And people, it’s really hard I think to go against if you’ve been brought up that way that the medical profession is flawless and can’t be questioned. And I mean, I never asked my doctor anything. I mean, you know, he just told me what was happening and what was going to happen to me next and this is what I was going to take and blah, blah, blah. And only in the last couple of years, when I changed things, did I start to say, “Well, why? Why can’t I do this? Why can’t I do that?” And a lot of that didn’t get me very well. It got him fired I guess as my doctor, but I think people have a tremendous barrier to get over there because questioning your doctor was not a few years ago a routine thing to do or anyone in the medical profession. And if you tell people, even today, I talk to people, I meet them every day, if you start to question why they’re taking seven medications and they’re still not well and they’re feeling awful, it’s like, “What are you talking about? My doctor prescribed them.” It’s as if that’s the “end all, be all.” And it’s just, to me, it’s a mental block they have to overcome.

LINDSEY: Totally, yeah. I totally agree.

MELISSA: And like you said, common sense has gone out the window at some point because when you sit down and just say, “These are what’s in the packaged foods,” and you look at the label and if you don’t understand the label, it just isn’t anything real that comes out of the ground or that you can cultivate. And then you look at what a carrot is that you pull out of your garden, two opposites. And one is not like the other. So you wonder if you’re putting that into your body, what is happening. And I think that’s the big disconnect, as people have been encouraged to buy food that’s easy to make, food that’s quick, quick and easy, maybe two parents working and stuff like that, so the drive-thru is an easy solution. But it’s really the cause of everything that’s going around in my opinion and the integrity, to sort of stand up and say, “Wait, this isn’t right,” is the big step for a lot of people.

LINDSEY: It’s totally a big step and I feel like there’s kind of almost two types of people in this world, and there’s people that are thinking. Period. They’re questioning everything and checking multiple sources and getting multiple answers and doing due diligence and open. They’re like, “I wanna learn.” “Something doesn’t make sense, it’s not right. Let me dive into it.” And then there’s a different type of person that is—

MELISSA: Go along to get along?

LINDSEY: Yes, and the first person is almost very proactive. They’re the type of person that life seems easy for success happens. They’re constantly getting lucky. And then the other type of person seems to fall into victim situations a lot. Things are always happening to them. It’s always hard and they’re always trying to do the right thing. They’re listening to their doctor and they’re sick again or something happened at work or their kid, it’s like a pattern on some degree, but rather than being totally open to interesting “I’ve been sick,” I’ve been listening to what this doctor is saying, let’s take a look at it. And I think for me growing up, I was definitely that second person for a while and it took me to a point of saying, “Hey, I’ve been trying this. It’s not working and I’m sick of it.” What else is out there or like what don’t I know because we don’t know what we don’t know, right? So we have to be totally open and be like, “Hey, I might be wrong.” What I think might be wrong, like what are other people’s opinions? What have other people that have been in my situation? How have they overcome these challenges? Because maybe if it worked for them, maybe it will work for me. You know, we’re all so different and what works for one of us may not work for another. But should have we tried enough different things enough different times, we’ll figure out exactly what works for us and we’ll learn so much in the process.

MELISSA: Yeah, and I think today, one good thing I’m really encouraged about particularly since I’ve been monitoring health and wellness a lot more closely is that the Internet, although there’s a lot of misinformation out there, that now that almost everybody has a high-speed connection, can surf away and find detailed articles and detailed medical journals, and detailed studies and report. A lot is happening. I mean, it’s making people have a little bit more boldness in questioning what’s going on with their health a little bit more than before in years past. I mean, I remember back in 2000 when I first tried to find a naturopath to look at what was wrong with me, and it was a struggle. You had to go to the library and look up all kinds of things to find where they practice near you. There was no like push button deal. But today, you can really find that a lot online.

LINDSEY: Yeah, absolutely.

MELISSA: Anyway, don’t let me interrupt your story, so you’re totally unmanageable, you’re taking meds.

LINDSEY: Yeah, so my childhood, I was pretty depressed and as I grew up, it was more depressing. They would duct tape my mouth to keep me quiet. So literally, my entire childhood I was told that I was bad, I was wrong, I was an embarrassment. I don’t want to take me out. Why couldn’t I be like the other kids? Rather than my IQ was very high and I got bored very easily. And both of my grandparents were pushed forward in grades. My great-grandfather actually pushed forward twice. And rather than pushing me forward or giving me more challenging articles or whatnot, they would just medicate me, which is really difficult on a child’s subconscious mind. And at the age of 16, they ended up deciding I was too much. They couldn’t handle me. We couldn’t get along and they actually hired off-duty police officers to escort me to a locked down boarding facility in Idaho. At the time, I lived in Southern California. I wasn’t a bad kid. I had actually been working to buy stuff I needed because my parents, it was very strange. My sister and I had this polar opposite growing up. I was bad and wrong, and they wouldn’t even buy me clothes for school. So I started working, which in the long run was a great asset to me. But my sister was modeling and doing stuff in New York, she was a year younger than me and she was the perfect poster child. They used to tell us that my sister is the pretty one and she got close to school because she needed them and she needed them for modeling. So I was extremely depressed would be an understatement. The boarding school ended up being the best thing that ever happened to me. While I hated it initially, it was a personal development school. So we got to take a look at our life and they looked at everything from a position of “I created everything. I am responsible. Everything in my life, I’m the source of it.” So if I wanted something to change, I get to change. I get to be different. I get a shift. So at a really young age, I learned a lot about owning my energy, my space, and being responsible and taking different actions if I want different results. So then, it ended up being a really great thing. I did in the process gained a ton of weight. I weighed at 17 years old over 200 pounds which was also not super healthy for my mental state and I had gone in to see the doctor, and the doctor had asked what was wrong with me. My eyes were almost completely yellow. And they ran some tests and they determined at that time my liver was failing and it was due to all the prescription meds I had been on almost my entire life. And so for me, that was one of my first big wake-up calls because I was like my dad’s in the medical field, how could you guys be okay with this? I’ve been saying for so long this isn’t okay. And so, it was my first look into this is not healthy for our bodies. And they took me off all the meds and that was it. And so over two years, I lost the weight. I had a shift in my mindset. I went from being a victim of my family and something was really wrong with me and actually believing the stories that they had told me my whole life to shifting and saying, “You know what, I can create anything I want. I have my whole life against or for me. I had my whole life still and I’m going to do anything and everything I want. And you know what? I’m going to freaking show them.” Like I got into this attitude of I’m going to show that I’m not a loser. Nothing is wrong with me. I’m going to be ten times more successful than them. And it took me two years. I dove into every possible health thing I could find. I ran. I lifted weights. I went—you know, this was, gosh, 16-17 years ago. So I did Atkins.

MELISSA: Yup, been there. I’ve done every diet I think possible.

LINDSEY: Yes, and so I learned a lot about what worked. But I think more importantly I learned what didn’t work. And it’s kind of this evolution of finding ourselves as just being open and learning. And so on that journey, it’s been 15 years now. I’ve kept the weight off, it’s been great. And for me, what it is, it’s eating real food, real food that’s nutrient-dense and that’s it. It’s that simple. You know everything starts at the source and what we put in our body. And there’s a huge shift for me. I mean, there’s constantly huge shifts, but the biggest one was probably about three years ago. You know, over the last 15 years while I lost the weight initially two years ago, it always felt like a struggle in my body to keep the weight off. I felt like I was fighting it and I would go to the traditional doctors and they would run their blood panels and they’re like, “You’re perfect. Your body is perfect. You’re in perfect health. I wish all my patients were like you. It’s all in your head.” And I’m sitting here going, “No, it’s not in my head. Something’s off.” My legs are always swollen. I don’t feel good. I just felt like something was off but every standard doctor said I was fine. I ended up seeing a naturopath that ran a test totally very dramatically different test and he called me, I gave him no history or background on me. All I did was pay for his test. He picked up the phone and called me and he said “What catastrophic event or surgery did you have that damaged your liver so bad?” And that was it. I was like, “Thank god there’s somebody out there that’s running tests.” And we talked and I have a pretty severe liver damage from my childhood which that original doctor 15 years ago who took me off the meds because my eyes were turning yellow as a sign of liver damage, they never went to do any cleanses or healing or anything to support my liver. So for the last 12 or 15 years, I have been operating and my body’s been trying to function on a really damaged liver and nobody’s even brought up the idea that perhaps we should try and heal it.

MELISSA: Right. What did you—I’m very interested because, of course, I had, I was bordering on liver failure myself a few years back just due to continuing to eat processed food and getting sicker and sicker, and not doing anything. It was just becoming a fatty liver. And when I changed what I was eating, I know people are sick of hearing this on the show because I’ve talked about it a bunch of times, just as I think people should know, when I changed what I was eating, my lab panels dramatically reversed and I had scans and everything done to see what was happening there. But it was from changing my diet completely. I mean, I dropped medications, everything else. But I’m interested to hear what you did to help your liver out.

LINDSEY: I’m going to say I did a few things. I think hands down, the number one is food, quality food. For a long time, I was a vegan because I was so against factory farming, that any humane lifestyles, they make the animals live and the way they were slaughtered and the meat is so toxic, that after I learned more I do eat meat. It’s all locally sourced, organic, humanely farmed. So everything I eat is quality. It’s quality, quality, quality food that’s completely nutrient-dense. So every time we’re eating, we’re nourishing our bodies. We’re literally healing our bodies. I also, I thought this was really wonky when he first told me to do it, but it’s worked really well, rebounding, dry brushing have also done a lot. Those are my biggest things.

MELISSA: Did you do any of, I talked to an interesting doctor the other day for this show, and she was talking about using the whole body vibration plate things that are out now. I guess some of the naturopaths have them. It sort of vibrates and you stand for it—she was saying she had her patients stand on it for five minutes, you know, every couple of days if they can to—I guess, they come to her office for this treatment, but it helps the lymphatic system flush itself out, but also she’s found she can halt osteoporosis and things like that that many women have by using that on a regular basis with their patients which I thought was pretty fantastic. I haven’t heard too many people talk about that.

LINDSEY: Yeah, I haven’t used it. I’ve seen it and I’ve been recommended it and I feel like you know, there’s so many amazing things on the market.

MELISSA: I know. I wanna just get a room with all this stuff in it, you know?

LINDSEY: Yes.

MELISSA: That’s my dream room is to have all these Biohacking toys in there and I could just do each one every day.

LINDSEY: Yes, totally.

MELISSA: That would be my job, to test them out or something for people. But yeah, that sounds, like I said, I totally agree with you because like I said, I was amazed when my blood panels reversed. And I was like how can this be possible? It couldn’t have been this easy. What’s going on here? And the doctor, called my performance doctor, works with me on these kind of things said, “No,” he said, “It’s just that dramatic.” He said, “You’ve cut out all these things all at once and you’ve also gotten off the medications.” And he said, “It’s healing itself. It’s starting to heal itself.” So he said, “That’s the way it happens.” And I’m like, “Okay. That’s crazy.” But I don’t want to run out of time here before you talk about what happened to you after you kind of got healed because you became a Hawaiian tropic model and started a couple of million-dollar companies and worked with some celebs. So tell us a little bit about that.

LINDSEY: Yeah, you know, I think initially my big motivation was to shove it to my family. And—

MELISSA: Sometimes, you have to get away from toxic people, if they’re friends or family. You can’t go on keeping that association, it just drives you down.

LINDSEY: And that’s what it was for me is for a long time, I felt like this responsibility. Like they’re family, they’re blood. I have to keep them around. And it’s like, no, it’s your life. You get one life to live, and if people are unsupportive of bringing out the best in you, you can love them from afar. And so that’s pretty much what I did and I took a huge step back and I’m like, “I love you, I can’t see you. I can’t have dinner with you.” It’s unsupportive of my life, my happiness, my soul, when we would get together and there was put-downs whether passively or directly. So really, I think the big shift was when I got home from boarding school. I started working full-time and I pretty much cut them out of my life and a friend of mine actually told me something and because over the years, I was challenged with, I would have good people in my life, and then someday they would come in and they would really drag me down and what they said to me is, “Lindsey, believe people when they show you who they are the first time.”

MELISSA: That’s good advice.

LINDSEY: Because I always wanted to see the best in them or I saw so much potential and I was like, “Oh, I can get them over this little negative thing or I can help them. I can be that for them.” But the truth is it’s their life, it’s their journey. And while we can love and support people, we don’t get to sacrifice ourselves in that process. And so, I’ve done a really great job over the years of really, there’s absolutely no negativity or toxicity in my life. And when people show up in a way that’s not congruent with how I live and the beliefs and morals I have, they just don’t get to be a part of it and I think that’s the biggest thing that’s contributed to my lifestyle now and like you said so, so I ended up wanting to show my parents. So I did. I started a company at 21 years old. We quickly grossed a million dollars and then I started another one that also did really well and I was young. I was a woman. People felt my story was interesting and then they asked me to start speaking, so then I started speaking. I’ve worked with Stedman Graham, Patricia Arquette, Eric Trump, Bruce Buffer. I’ve worked with a lot of celebrities and business owners and I can’t even think of other names. But it’s really about stepping into our power and doing whatever it is that we want to do no matter what anybody says and I don’t know.

MELISSA: The mindset, the mindset.

LINDSEY: Yeah.

MELISSA: That’s—I think your golden ticket there is changing your mindset. The other thing you said earlier was I think were three gold nuggets here at least, but the three big ones for me are, one, stop being a victim. That’s not going to get you anywhere. And unfortunately, I feel that there’s a big motivation today from the media and everybody else to make people become victims, to encourage them that that’s the path to go on. And I think that’s a wrong path. I think like you said, you have to make your own decisions and choose your own path. And being a victim is not going to help you out in that way, it’s just going to keep you where you are now, sick, fat, ugly, whatever the problem is.

LINDSEY: Totally. And you know what, I wanna add to that, because people use the word “victim” a lot. And I actually had someone interact with me the other day, “Oh, your life’s easy because you’re the pretty, rich lady. And it’s easy to be positive.” And I responded back with him, “I’m actually not positive. I’m being responsible.” So it’s about choosing to take responsibility in our life for everything. So a lot of people like to take responsibility for the good things that happen, but the bad things are like, “Oh, it wasn’t my fault. It was this, this, this or this.” But here’s the thing, every action has a direct reaction, good or negative, it is what it is, so what could we do differently to have a different reaction. And so to really take and look at even the bad stuff that happened going, okay, what could I have done differently? What could I have done differently? What could I have done differently? Because that creates possibility for us. That creates change. There’s been bad things that have happened to me per se, but if I’m like, hey, if I look back at it, what could I have said or done differently, completely differently that could have maybe completely shifted the outcome? Yeah, I think that’s huge.

MELISSA: Yeah, and I think the other thing is people you associate with. We’re taught I think to get along, to go along, and then go along to get along, whatever you want to say there. And in a lot of cases, it’s not the best advice because like you said, you have to get away from people that are dragging you down and you can’t fix them. And I think that’s a lot of women fall into that category because we think, “Oh, we can fix it.” We can make it all better. We can just do this or do that and it’ll all be fine. And that wrecks everybody’s life. That wrecks your life. It wrecks the people you’re trying to help because they’re not helping themselves and you’re trying to change something you can’t change. So I think you really have to face up to, you may be surrounded by people that aren’t helping you and that may include your conventional medical practitioner. And at the very least, you need to ask questions to yourself and to them about who’s benefiting here, if at all. And if not, I think you have to cut the ties. I have to agree with you there and I know I was guilty of hanging on to a lot of relationships and people in my life that weren’t helping me at all. And I was just like, “They’re okay. They’re cool.” No, they’re not. But having to face up to that I think is a big step a lot of people again don’t want to make because it’s a hard step to take. And it also means just what you said, you’re taking responsibility for your actions and for your own life and so you don’t have convenient people to blame things on. And the other thing I think you said too is changing your mindset and looking at the possibilities that are available to you as opposed to always on the negative and the fatalistic side. I just feel today you said earlier, you know, about people being mindless and I think there’s a huge epidemic of that due to technology. And I love technology, but I think people are being, you know, spending way too much time playing Candy Crush and ignoring what they should be doing or thinking about, and it leads to not having to really think about what’s going on in their life, what’s going on with their health, making clear decisions. It’s more of a medication of technology, as I call it.

LINDSEY: Totally. Totally.

MELISSA: Alright. Well, we’re almost out of time here but I want to let people know where they can find you online and I don’t know if you have a book or anything out at the moment that you can plug but let me know and we’ll put it in the show notes.

LINDSEY: The best way to find me is going to be on Instagram and I’m on Instagram as BodyHotty and it’s spelled fun, so it’s “B-O-D-Y-H-O-T-T-Y.”

MELISSA: Right. And any website or anything people can check you out?

LINDSEY: The website’s about to be up and launched, so the best way is just to connect on Instagram.

MELISSA: Okay. And also, you work with people in the financial realm, correct?

LINDSEY: I do.

MELISSA: Yeah, so for people that are interested in that perhaps, check you out on Instagram and on Facebook?

LINDSEY: Instagram’s best, yup.

MELISSA: Okay, Instagram. Alright. Well, thanks so much, Lindsey. It’s been a pleasure having you on and maybe we’ll get you on again—oh, I wanted to say, in case people think that’s something may sound familiar here or a little bit familiar, Lindsey just got married to a guest that was on our program a few weeks back, George Bryant, the Civilized Caveman Chef. So they’re now a couple, a power couple, I might say? But both share an incredible amount of enthusiasm and c’est la vie, I guess is the best way to describe George. I haven’t met you actually in person, but I’d say you gotta have that to be married to George, for sure.

LINDSEY: Thanks, yeah. We have a lot of fun together.

MELISSA: But both have very much put a lot of positive enthusiasm out in the world and are doing a lot to mind. I know George is doing tremendously a lot to help other people change their lives and change their health. And I think we all gotta be grateful for that. So, thanks for spreading the word and thanks for being on the show today.

LINDSEY: Well, thanks for having me, Melissa.

MELISSA: Alrighty.

Speak Your Mind

*

Top